Shaina vs Marin

Betelgeuse Orion
9 min readJan 21, 2020

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In episode 16 we saw a fight between Ophiuchus Shaina and Eagle Marin, im tired to read “that doest happen in manga” “Marin doesnt wanna fight”… this is not an opinion it’s a fact.

Marin is the silver saint of Eagle, she’s 16 years old, from Japan, she is 167 cm tall and 51 Kg, (flyweight class).

Shaina is the silver saint of Ophiuchus, 16 years old, from Italy, she is 166 cm tall and 49 Kg, (light flyweight class).

In light weights, Shaina’s smaller wingspan gives her a faster and more powerful blow in spite of her lower weight, but also her lower weight gives her more resistance and speed than Marin.

Let’s begin in episode 1, when Shaina intercepts Seiya and Marin,

Shaina defies Marin to fight her to save Seiya…

but Marin refuses to fight and just advice Seiya during the fight.

Shaina beats Seiya hard but he only did a comeback when his pride overcome his lack of fighting spirit because the soldiers were beating him. A meteor broke her mask and Shaina let him go.

In the manga Shaina’s role is a joke, she never fight Seiya again (just like ep 37, now i love you…), im sure Michi Himeno didn’t like that, Kurumada, do you really think this woman is not going to do anything to get revenge?

Of course in the anime, she does, Shaina trains hard to get stronger.

After the “old Pope died”, Shaina seize the opportunity to test her skills and take vengeance over Marin, so lure her in a supposed training match.

Then we saw Shaina attacking Marin with a kick, take attention is this attack because is exactly the same she will use later. Marin dodges it with difficulty.

Shaina keeps pressing Marin, now it seems Marin dodges with more ease but Shaina maintains balance easily allowing her to attack again before Marin can launch a counterattack, at the end Shaina fakes a punch where she is attacking with another kick and Marin is forced to jump back.

Marin is panting because she’s tired; not because Marin is scared,

In the other hand for Shaina this was just a warm-up, now she knows Marin’s speed and stamina.

Marin complains because she thought Shaina invited her to spar.

Now the conversation may vary depending on the dubbing, in the original version (Japanese), Shaina uses a racist tone, but she is only trying to provoke Marin to attack, but her taunt doest work.
In the Spanish versions there is no reference to the Japanese or slavery, simply Shaina always fights for real.

In any case, this causes Marin to take a defensive stance, she can’t attack because she’s tired but also Shaina proved to be able to manage the Pegasus Meteor Fist, and a single attack like an Eagle Toe Flash, Shaina will dodge it easily.
The best option for Marin is to be defensive while recovering.

Shaina needs a faster attack to hit Marin and does it with a Thunder Claw based on kicks. It’s the same attack at the beginning of the fight, but much faster.

Shingo Araki can’t save frames in the animation to make it look faster because we wouldn’t see it, the cobra’s recreation is magnificent for a 1986 anime.

Marin is unable to dodge or block this attack. Shaina kicks Marin eleven times, ten in the belly and one in the head. Shaina knocks down Marin.

Shaina defeats Marin with a single Thunder Claw, a technique Marin saw several times in the first episode, Shaina is so fast Marin couldnt do anything. Marin is knocked out, unable to get up.

But Shaina doesn’t look happy or satisfied with her victory

The action is cut and we move on to a scene between Pope, Gigas and Phaeton.

This scene lasts 50 seconds, Shingo Araki saves a scene where presumably Shaina laughs at Marin and despises her, lifts her off the ground to keep hitting her.
Since Marin’s body is not bloody we can assume that the action returns just when Shaina hits again.

Even with her mask, we can see the pain in Marin’s face

Marin can’t stand up, so Shaina hits her again to throw her against the soldiers so they can hold her, but she also has to make sure Marin can’t recover from the previous blow.

Shaina kicks Marin 3 times and finishes her combo with a kick in the head.

It may seem that the soldiers do not let Marin move, but in reality Marin does nothing to move. Marin is completely stunned.

With Marin at his mercy, Shaina changes her tactic and prepares to use her fists, Shaina charges while she shouts like an amazon with a loud warcry.

Shaina hits Marin even harder, now is Marin who screams loud but in pain. The animation for Marin’s face changes to reflect a stronger blow and the pain.

Shaina hits Marin hard in the belly, it’s four punches counting the previous blow.

Shingo Araki changed the position of the camera, to show how Shaina is beating Marin with both fists. Shaina hits six times.

The beating is too strong, Shaina deals a crushing blow after another, Marin cannot withstand such powerful punches, she begins to bleed abundantly, with the sound of the blows we can count three more,

High blood pressure causes your wounds to open and bleeds heavily from the head, internal wounds from the punches in the belly makes her bleed from the mouth too.
Marin begins to shake and she is about to reach her limit.

As long as Marin keeps screaming and conscious, Shaina won’t stop the butchering. Five more punches to add.

But Aiolia shouts her to stop.

Although it is not seen, the soldiers release Marin and it falls on Shina

Now it is Shaina who holds Marin.

Now Shaina complains because Aiolia defends Marin

Aiolia helps Marin and remembers Shaina, she also swore allegiance to the new Pope.

Aiola asks if she is still angry about the defeat of Casios

That makes Shaina more angry, which threatens Aiolia in the original dub, but in the end she has to leave.

In the end, Shaina did not hit vital areas of Marin’s body, she could recover.
Shaina’s goal was first to paralyze Marin and then give her a brutal beating and it is no less true that if Aiolia had not intervened, Shaina would have killed Marin.

Combat log:

  • COMBAT DURATION: (2:10) ; effective time (1:20)
  • Attacks made: Shaina — 40 : Marin — 0
  • Dodges made: Shaina — 0 : Marin — 8
  • Successful hits: Shaina — 32 : Marin — 0
  • Successful kicks: Shaina — 14 : Marin — 0
  • Kicks in the belly: Shaina — 12 : Marin — 0
  • Kicks in the head: Shaina — 2 : Marin — 0
  • Successful punches: Shaina — 18 : Marin — 0
  • Knockdowns dealt: Shaina — 1 : Marin — 0
  • knockouts dealt: Shaina — 1 : Marin — 0
  • Shaina wins by KO

I’ve also read that Marin lets Shaina hit her to “avoid problems”… is a great idea, letting a rival who hates you beat you to death. Marin tries to fight but simply cannot, she doesnt Shaina acts like a swarmer pression on Marin

Nothing happens to recognize Shaina defeats Marin. It’s true Shaina attracts Marin to fight in a supposed spar, but soon Shaina proves to be faster and more resilient than Marin, once Marin knows this is a real fight, she has enough time to attack or defend but Marin knows Shaina is a tough warrior, no Seiya’s Meteor Fist was able to hit her (in fact, in all fights between them) so Marin’s neither and an Eagle Toe Flash would be easily dodged because Shaina is faster.

Marin knows Shaina’s Thunder Claw from the first episode, she saw it several times, so her best option is block it and counterattack to defeat a faster opponent.

But Shaina has been training hard for a long time, and her Thunder Claw is more powerfull and hits Marin completely, from then Shaina dominates the fight, Shaina gives Marin a vicious beating Marin.

The duo Araki-Himeno developed these characters much more, Shaina is a hardcore warrior, brave and sometimes insolent, the other silver saints treat her with respect, she fought Seiya 4 times, fought Hyoga and Shun at the same time, she survived to gold saints attacks, god warriors and even Poseidon. Also she was able to block Bud’s Shadow Viking Tiger Claw to save Shun.

While Marin is a more defensive and reflective fighter, when she understands Asterion’s power, she manages to defeat him with a single blow but also she has a more active role in research such as when she finds Shion’s body, when she discovers the existence of Alcor Zeta Bud or when she finds Seika.

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